just came back from pre-camp and ycm conference..was nice to see the philo people again :) hopefully tmr's conference will be something useful for both me and the students ba.. wanna take back something from it also.. i know i still have alot to learn...climbing slowly..but i'll reach a height im satisfied of eventually :) i know it. i know it. i know it. i need to KNOW. eventually, i'll be able to psycho myself that its a piece of cake.